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Speeches

4 Jun 2008

This is a quick and dirty post. Yall have been blowing up the comments in the other threads, so keep that going!

1. McCain’s speech.

Wiggity wack!!! From Left to Right, all agree he was horrible. OMG dude is actually UNinspiring. Like, I actually feel dumber and less empowered after his monotonous droning. Thank God the networks cut away. I was about ready to unregister to vote. McCain is straight up creepy. His laugh is really scary. I’m sorry. He was just horrible.

And did anyone catch Harold Ford on MSNBC praising this speech? That brother is so off. I feel bad for him. He wishes he were Obama, but he’s not. He’s trying to take ownership of Obama and his message, but it didn’t work for me.

Two signs that Obama is successfully setting the agenda…

a) McCain can’t even get his own campaign slogan? McCain has had 72 years to come up with his own campaign slogan, and the best he can do is “A Leader We Can Believe In?” The best he can do is to plagiarize Obama’s joint? Weak.

b) He said “change” over 30 times and is desperate to distance himself from Bush, especially on Iraq, but that won’t fly homey. McCain was one of the biggest cheerleaders for this illegal war. Check out some background.

Also, I just about died laughing when every single network interrupted his speech to announce that Obama was the nominee. That was a powerful metaphor representing the season in which this country exists right now. John McCain’s time is up. Our time is now. Later dude.

2. Clinton’s Speech. (part 1, part 2)

Update: bush just congratulated obama on his victory. if bush, who has a serious problem acknowledging reality, can do it, why can’t hillary?

Update 2: Great post offering an opportunity for you to follow Hillary’s advice and tell her what to do via her website

My immediate reaction was “Hillary managed to ruin my mood with that speech. What an utter disappointment. I really don’t want her as VP. Can’t wait for obama to bring me back.”

Hillary really disappointed. She continued to fuel the flames of illegitimacy with her repeated claims of “18 million votes,” and I got increasingly disturbed as she continued to rally her troops in a non-too-veiled bullying move.

She mentioned party unity a lot, but she set quite a defiant tone. She made lots of references to particular people’s stories, and when she gave a shout out to the soldier on his third tour of duty, I had to shout, “because you sent him to war!” Couldn’t help it. She has a remarkable ability to bother me, and on a night of celebration, she burst my bubble a bit.

After having more time to think about it, I think this was her last stand. She held her speech in an underground bunker with no cell or tv/radio signals. It was Hillaryland, and it was the last time she’d have for a moment like this with her supporters.

She established a character for herself as a “fighter,” so she has to look like she’s still “fighting.” She also needs to raise a lot of “money” so this was basically a big advertisement for her debt collection agency, aka hillaryclinton.com.

For someone who pretty much assumed she’d be the nominee, this has got to sting. She didn’t surprise me, but I was disappointed, as I have repeatedly been by her campaign, in her reckless decision-making.

But it doesn’t matter. Because.

3. Obama’s Speech

Shout out to the wife and kids and to grandma. Nice

Praises to the entire field of democratic candidates. Classy.

Recognition that running against Hillary was an honor and made him stronger. We can all agree on this last point. She was the fire to his metal, and while her many bad decisions caused a lot of unnecessary pain, Obama undeniably grew from them and has become a much stronger nominee.

Then he just bats down John McCain. It was so damn smooth yall. “We recognize his service to this country and his many accomplishments, even though he refuses to acknowledge mine.” Damn Gina!

I loved his comeback on McCain about making trips to Iraq.

John McCain has spent a lot of time talking about trips to Iraq in the last few weeks, but maybe if he spent some time taking trips to the cities and towns that have been hardest hit by this economy – cities in Michigan, and Ohio, and right here in Minnesota – he’d understand the kind of change that people are looking for.

The most important to me were the following statements:

What you won’t hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon – that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize. Because we may call ourselves Democrats and Republicans, but we are Americans first. We are always Americans first.

This is what let me see that Obama is running things now. He’s taken clear control of this nomination, this campaign and “this party.”

He’s displayed solid judgment up until now, and I’m confident he won’t get bullied into Hillary as VP. He just did what most people thought could not be done. He bested the Clinton family in a political contest. He out-managed, out-fundraised, and out-classed the dream team. A brother named Barack Hussein Obama. Our time is now.


If we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. This was the moment – this was the time – when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves, and our highest ideals. Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.
– Barack Obama, June 3, 2008

As always, have a peaceful day.

Open Thread!!!

As being reported by the AP, my colleague, Jack Turner, has rightly pointed out, it’s time to get down to business.

In the short time I’ve blogged here, I’ve read numerous comments about housecleaning in the Congressional Black Caucus. I recently posted about the CBC Monitor Report card, and we can always use some volunteers to track bills. More on that later.

The fire is hot, and it’s time to strike. Now that the “inevitable” Democratic nominee is being told to take a hike as I write this, she’s implying she’ll concede if Obama puts her on the ticket.

As another colleague, Rikyrah, would say, “Hell to the NAW!”

I agree. She hasn’t buck danced enough apologies to start the healing process yet.

At this moment, we have a bunch of CBC Hanky Heads that are scrambling for cover, because they are hearing loudly from their districts; many of them that went overwhelmingly for Obama, while they were toting Missy Clinton’s water. However, merely fielding challengers to the incumbents because they supported Clinton defeats the entire Democratic process, such as it is. There are other reasons for challenging them. In case you’re not aware, allow me to list a couple:

Iraq War Funding

Refusal to Filibuster bills that had no business passing

Bankruptcy Bill

Internet Neutrality

Campaign Finance Reform Laws that would make funding of National Campaigns Public Financed only and kicks out Lobbyists and Corporations (they refused to cosign on a bill introduced by Obama himself)

Hate Crime Study Bill (now you know such a bill is to reintroduce COINTELPRO)

Slinging a fellow member (Cynthia McKinney) under the bus for protesting about being molested by the Capitol Hill police, while providing a crooked member (Dollar, Dollar Bill Jefferson, y’all) total cover.

Colluding with Fox Network to Host a Presidential Debate.

There isn’t enough room on this blog to list them all. But at least 25-40% of the Caucus voted on those atrocious bills; many of them with districts that could ill afford to have those bills pass.

Rep. Mel Watt once shouted at me that the CBC Monitor should have been looking at the Caucus’ voting records on Civil Rights issues, like Ebony, Black Enterprise and Essence Magazines do. When I reminded him that the job of the Congressional Black Caucus wasn’t just to vote on Civil Rights legislation (usually getting a damned Post Office named after a Black Luminary – face it, since the passage of MLK’s birthday into a National Holiday, the caucus hasn’t done much), he called me a damned blogger and one of my colleagues at CBC Monitor walked up to see why the Congressman was yelling at me before deciding whether or not to get in that arse.

We started CBC Monitor with the precise intention of putting a spotlight on why the Caucus was being infested and infected with DLC tendencies. When you examined the voting records, you found clear evidence that at least 30% of the Caucus was taking two and few payola from Corporate interests, and it wasn’t even Tom DeLay-type cheddar, either.

The CBC sells out on the cheap, and leave the few remaining warriors hanging in the wind. That is what has to stop.

Donna Edwards has already done it. Al Wynn is gone, and being the ingrate he is, he’s forcing the state of Maryland to pay for a special election that will give Ms. Edwards the seat earlier than January; but then she has to run again in November. The SOB didn’t want to stick around, and has taken a job with one of those corporate interests he sold out to – DicksteinShapiro, one of the biggest energy lobbying firms in DC.

My friend, Kevin Powell, is trying to unseat Eldolphus Towns this year. When willing candidates with progressive records come forward and state they want to challenge the incumbents who have sat in Congress so long, their asses are glued to their offices, I say we hold fundraisers, canvass, pass out copies of the Report Card, so their constiuents get informed as to how well their interests have been represented.

One comment listed the following for primary challenges either in November or in 2010:

Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (Hanky Head)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (she’s been banned from flying on American Airlines for acting a fool)
Kendrick Meek (he didn’t learn jack from his mama)
Edolphus Towns
Artur Davis (DLC candidate recruiter)
Emmanuel Cleaver

Here’s a few I want to add:

Hank Johnson (AIPAC funded him to oust McKinney)
David Scott (DLC money man)
Yvette Clarke (Replaced a competent Congressman in Major Owens and is stinking up the joint)
Bobby Rush (the former Black Panther co-authored the bill to restrict the Internet, y’all)
Danny Davis (strong ties to the Moonies)

Here’ some we need to keep until we can train their replacement

John Conyers (we don’t need his wife as his replacement – too ghetto and I wouldn’t like to turn on C-Span and see her reaching across the aisle to tear off someone’s weave or wig like she’s in a Detroit club)
Barbara Lee – my home representative who fights the good fight
Bobby Scott and Jim Clyburn – they fight the good fight, especially for the brothers in the joint coming out and trying to reacclimate to being out of jail.

Some of you have said Maxine Waters should be on the list of those who got to go. I don’t know; while she’s made some mistakes, her voting records on the issues that matter to us has been stellar, and she’s one of the few members of Congress still fighting to get legislation passed for victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Now that Obama has closed the Deal, I say it’s time to send a message to those CBC members who are cowering in fear that they’re going to get challengers to their seats, and that they’re going to actually have to work to get re-elected, instead of mailing in their performances as legislators. And I’m all for that.

Montana
With 78% of the precincts reporting:
Clinton – 41% (58, 335) / 4 delegates
Obama – 57% (81, 407) / 8 delegates

South Dakota
With 100% of the Precincts Reporting:
Clinton – 55% (54, 179)/ 9 Delegates
Obama – 45% (43, 726) / 6 Delegates

Be honest, you didn’t think he had a chance. I know that I didn’t, but I was going to support him, because I believed it was time for the country to see a run for President by someone that possibly had a chance. It had been a generation since Jesse Jackson’s runs in 1984 and 1988, and it was time for us, as a nation to take that step. Back then, I just wanted him to make it to the 30th of the next month, in tact. That’s all I wished for.

What were you REALLY thinking when Barack Hussein Obama announced his run for the Presidency of the United States on that Saturday in February in Springfield, Illinois?

A snowy night in Iowa.

That is when it began.

When a First Term Senator from the State of Illinois shocked America by winning, convincingly, the Iowa Caucus.

I spent the night fielding calls from friends and family. Short calls that didn’t amount to much more than ” HE WON…….I’ll call you back!”

As an African-American, even though I had been donating money, volunteering, even going to Iowa to canvass, seeing him on that stage, in victory, was surreal.

For my mother, born in the Jim Crow South, seeing Obama on stage in 90+% White Iowa, a clear winner was something she never thought she’d see in her lifetime. For my teenaged nephew, all he knew was that his first political exercise of his franchisement would be for Barack Obama.

Admit it…….Iowa made you shake your head.

What else do you you remember about that night?

UPDATE: Jack’s Post asking the same question in January

From CNN.com:

House whip Clyburn throws support to Obama

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The House majority whip, the top ranking African-American in Congress, said Tuesday he will support Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic presidential race.

Rep. James Clyburn had been neutral in the race between the front-running Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton, the former first lady.

“I believe the nomination of Senator Obama is our Party’s best chance for victory in November, and our nation’s best hope for much needed change,” Clyburn said in a statement. “Senator Obama brings a new vision for our future and new voters to our cause. He has created levels of energy and excitement that I have not witnessed since the 1960′s.”

Rest of article at link above.

Clyburn has been on of the unsung heroes during this election cycle. Him dropping comments in the press and standing his ground on them at times when needed helped a great deal. We all knew he wouldn’t let his daughter and grandson down..LOL

I loved Clyburn on Morning Joe. I loved that he brought up Dean’s 50 State Strategy, but when he talked about it in terms of his historial perspective, having gone to jail during the Civil Righrs Movement, and that Obama’s victory in Iowa convinced him that it was possible to see dreams come to fruition, I was moved.

Good morning, everyone.

Well, once again, yesterday, heated discussions.

Love it!!!

So, let’s keep on a roll. Drop those links, have those debates, pearls of knowledge, useless trivia, etc.

Share…share…share with your fellow JJP readers.

Today should be an active day. I hope as many of you as possible will be here this evening with us.

And always, have a peaceful day.

Hat tip:Prometheus6

Lawrence O’Donnell of West Wing fame has penned a nightmare fan fiction:

Four Days In Denver

In case you don’t know, there is a new article in the upcoming issue of Vanity Fair about Bill Clinton.

Bubba Trouble: The Comeback Id

It was written by Dee Dee Myers’ husband. Yes. That Dee Dee Myers.

Here is Bill Clinton’s Response to the article.

One of the biggest FRAUDS ever perpetrated by Camp Hillpatine was that she was FULLY VETTED.

Hell no, she wasn’t fully vetted.

She ran two non-contests for United States Senate. She hasn’t been vetted for her POST -White House Years.

And that, Brothers and Sisters of JJP, was the ticking time bomb just waiting for explosion once she got the nomination.

And, the Democrats would have been STUCK

STUCK, I TELL YA.

The moment the GOP began to unload, it would have been deja vu all over again. Us stuck defending these jokers against the ‘ vast right-wing conspiracy’ over crap THAT WAS TRUE.

5 Things. Don’t even count Bill’s below-the-belt-extracurriculars.

1. Full revealing of ALL her earmarks.
2. What’s in the 18 million LEFT OUT of the tax returns?
3. What’s in the Ron Burkle Partnership? What did he have to do to get it?
4. Donor list for the Clinton Library
5. Donor list for the Clinton Foundation

Those 5- and the GOP wouldn’t even have to tell us whose been flying with Bill on those private planes.

Wouldn’t even have to go into his below-the-belt-extracurriculars.

I have no proof (BECAUSE THEY WON’T REVEAL ANY OF THIS), but I’ll forever believe the answers to the five above questions would have given GOP 527′s endless commercials.

Now, I’ve had a mini-debate at another blog that this is bad news for Obama, articles like this.

I happen to disagree.

These stories are about to come out full force, and I have absolutely no problem with that.

Because, it will show how Obama’s campaign was even MORE ABOVE BOARD.

You think this stuff in Vanity Fair, and what’s going to come out later has just been suddenly discovered?

Of course not.

The Obama people CHOSE not to go down this road.

But, I want every bit of these stories to come out. Because, everyone that does ensures to me that she’ll NEVER get that VP slot. Period.

The person debating me says that Obama could be ‘blamed’ for it by Hillpatine’s more irrational supporters.

The Vanity Fair article is the first, but it won’t be the last. These are stories that the MSM has sat on, believing they would get to use them on Hillpatine during the General Election.

Now that that won’t happen, they have to use them :
1. They’ve already done them, why let them go to waste
2. The GOP has them, and they will NEVER pass up the chance to kick the Clintons while the getting is good.

Obama will not be able to control this. He simply won’t. The Clintons have made too many enemies, and they want to feast on their carcass.
And, there are a whole lot of Democrats, the ones who had Bill Clinton’s Back during the worst of times and took up space on the Clinton field of battle (oh, say Black folk and MoveOn.org), who this time, will just sit this one out.

cross-posted to DailyKos

(note: i’m mad verbose. this is long. kick your feet up. get some tea. take your time with this one :))

Last week, after talking with several Hillary Clinton supporters, I had an epiphany: that which I most dislike about the darker sides of her and her campaign is just what some people see in me. It’s the worst feeling, to end up displaying traits you deplore, and I’d like to explore it a bit as we move to the general election.

I have never been as involved nor as invested in a political campaign as I have been this year. I’ve traveled to distant states, administered caucuses, knocked on doors, set up mixtapes, installed Internet access, raised and donated funds and rallied my wits and my keyboard in promotion and defense of a candidate I feel represents the best realistic shot at a national wake-up call that’s long overdue.

Months of cable news and blog coverage later, I know more about superdelegate math, fundraising limits and John King’s stupid interactive maps than I ever, ever wanted.

I’ve read entire biographies, full position papers and engaged in heated but productive conversations about deep policy matters on health care, energy, prisons, agriculture and Iraq. I got smarter.

Stepping down from the media noise machine has been the greatest gift, and in canvassing for Obama, I learned my most valuable lessons: that people are not as stupid nor as simple as their media portrayals, that it’s a lot easier to write off entire blocs of voters from the comfort of my living room and that becoming president of a nation with such diverse people and demands as the USA is just short of impossible.

In all that on-the-ground work, I have and will continue to maintain that I’ve gotten much more out of this process than Obama has out of my work on his behalf. My level of involvement has allowed me to see the impact and power of citizen-initiated action when paired with technology, inspiration and urgent need. I’ve met some truly amazing people who’ve sacrificed even more than I. I’ve grown as a writer, a citizen and a human being.

At the other end of the spectrum, however, I have felt driven to lash out in ways that expose the limits of my own ability to communicate.

I never set out to hate Hillary Clinton or her supporters. I never thought I’d consider a vote for John McCain. I never thought I’d even jokingly threaten to burn down the city of Denver (sorry yall!). But that’s exactly what I felt driven to at many moments during this season. Despite the positive lessons I learned, I have not always been able to take that high road.

At the heart of my own anger lay a sense of betrayal, paranoia and a feeling that I was trapped by a family I once held in high esteem and a media that denied the validity of my experience.

It began in January, shortly after Obama’s Iowa victory. Many of us Obama supporters, especially black folks, were euphoric about his win in that state. On CNN I stated, “I felt like I won,” after seeing the results come in. With that one victory, the world shook for a moment, and I could actually see new, previously unimaginable possibilities for the future.

Within weeks, however, a troubling pattern began to emerge from the Clinton campaign. It was as if the Iowa loss set off an explosion on a snowy mountain, and a political avalanche was unleashed. Obama was accused of being a potential drug dealer, secret Muslim, “cool black guy” and other derogatory things usually tied to his race.

When many of us black folks began pointing out these incidents, we were told that nothing nefarious was afoot, that we must be imagining it. There was little to no mainstream media coverage of what we were seeing. As any one who has been oppressed knows, the only thing worse than the oppression is the denial of that oppression by others, so we at JJP set up the Clinton Attacks Obama wiki in an effort to convince ourselves we weren’t crazy and show the world, in a documented fashion, what distressed us.

Then came South Carolina. The black vote, which had been reliably behind Clinton, looked certain to move to Obama after his strong showings in Iowa and New Hampshire. Rather than stress the positive Clinton brand (if not results) among black voters, the Clintons decided to minimize the black vote and Obama’s pending victory. (updated) There were the MLK comments (/update) and Bill Clinton’s comparison of Obama to Jackson was the statement that finally put the media on to what many of us were seeing. The Clinton’s star had fallen tragically and unnecessarily among black people.

It was in this environment that Jack & Jill Politics really got traction. Despite having been around since the summer of 2006, our traffic truly began to grow when we started articulating this growing sense of frustration and panic over the “color arousal” tactics and code-word-laden decisions of the Clinton campaign. In many ways, we just happened to be in the right place-time and shared a sense of mission with other black political blogs like African American Political Pundit and Field Negro, among many others.

Many new readers came here and found that they were not alone. The feeling was one of relief. It reminded me of finding that one other black kid in the white school. Even if you didn’t talk, you could occasionally exchange knowing glances or a head nod when the teacher or a student said something racist.

Over the next months, the situation escalated. Geraldine Ferraro called Obama the affirmative action candidate. Clinton campaign officials sowed dangerous seeds of discord between black and Latino constituencies. And of course, there was Reverend Wright.

In most of these instances, I saw two battles. One was with a media ill-prepared to moderate a national discussion on race at any point, much less during a presidential election. Most of these organizations were unable to competently guide us through the decision to invade a country, so my expectations of their understanding of the black experience were low, and they met those expectations well.

But what came as a shock, yes an actual shock, to me was to witness Hillary Clinton and her campaign, time and again, join in the ugliness. From “he wouldn’t have been my pastor” to “he’s an out of touch elite” to “he only has two years of experience” to “he’s not a muslim as far as I know,” I was repeatedly disappointed by the decisions she and her campaign made. Each one seemed designed, not just to win, not just to hurt the other candidate, but to attack the very people who, through the darkest of hours, had stood by the Clinton family in the past.

Update: As has been pointed out in the comments and as I’ve written before, I was so disappointed because this candidate, with all her brand name, money, establishment support and built-in advantages, so often rushed to the gutter for combat strategy.

After all this, we began hearing “well, it doesn’t matter” and “blacks will vote for Hillary in the end,” and that’s when I really actually snapped. After that, the issue moved beyond what Hillary was saying to why so many so-called Democratic leaders sat idly by, doing nothing. It moved to black superdelegates who not only bucked the overwhelming will of their constituencies, but did so in the face of clear, undeniable and unnecessary racially charged tactics that undermined not just Obama but, as rikyrah has so perfectly put it, “any black candidate who wants a shot at national politics outside a gerrymandered district.”

Most importantly, it became a test of the relationship between black voters and a Democratic party which for decades could rely on this demographic’s loyalty beyond all others, despite the spotty record of actual results.

Hillary and Obama were the actors, but the play was much, much bigger than them.

Once this bridge was crossed, I fell into a heightened state of battle, and I saw everything through this lens. I became obsessed and I often became nasty. I found a community at JJP that often felt exactly as I did, and we supported each other in our justified outrage and incredulity.

So the name-calling escalated: Ice Queen, Borg Queen, Tonya Harding, and beyond. Many of these terms were used in jest. All were used out of frustration and a sense of absurd, tragic comedy. As Hillary escalated her claims and false calculations (Michigan, Florida, popular vote, sniper fire, Obama voters as delusional), there was very little room left for me to escalate on top of that. I was fueled by anger and sometimes hate. Proud of me Yoda would not have been.

Here’s what I didn’t realize. All the while I and many Obama supporters here were going through our trauma, many, but not all, Hillary supporters experienced their own version of the same.

While I haven’t found evidence of Obama or his campaign being involved, it is clear that the media handled gender about as ignorantly and dangerously as it handled race. How else can you explain the comparisons to Hillary as your wife in probate court or a nagging mother? Why else would it be acceptable to compare Obama’s “weakness” in military aggression to his “feminine” ways?

Updated paragraph:
The hard part is that a) Hillary has often used the reality of sexism to shield herself from legitimate attacks, and b) by pretending this was a “horse race” for so long I believe the media helped her candidacy far more than it hurt it. She was given multiple stays of execution though she mathematically lost back in March.

Still, that doesn’t mean the illegitimate media attacks didn’t exist and broadly.

Many supporters saw the attacks on Hillary as more than that. They were saw them as attacks on women, and so, many women who might have been on the fence or only tepid Clinton supporters rushed to her in defense of themselves and their daughters, mothers and sisters. They may have seen the desperation in many of her tactics, but they also so saw themselves under siege and could excuse much of that behavior as necessary to wage this worthy battle. (True, all of these supporters didn’t rush to Michelle Obama’s defense as she’s been dragged through the fire, but again, we’re not all perfect, and that’s not an excuse).

I spent hours and days even, researching all the race-baiting and ugliness going on in the media and among Clinton folks, but I never bothered to try to find out what was driving some of Hillary’s staunchest supporters.

That’s not quite right. I found some justifications, but the most visible ones were easy to eliminate. I don’t give any weight to “Obama is a muslim who will give all our money to Africa” or “Obama stole this from Hillary” wing of Clinton supporters. But I did completely miss the experience of Clinton-supporting women who wretched at the statements of Chris Matthews and others.

In hindsight, this was a failure on my part.

Update, here’s a video that describes some of the incidents I know I missed:

I love the part of this job that involves policy research and genuine arguments about the future. I love the biting and satirical edge many of the posts here use. I love the raw honesty that lives here for a people who are too often told their experience doesn’t matter. However, I know from experience that I caused collateral damage with the tone of many of my personality-driven posts and that my own failure to try understanding the experience of those I disagreed with did me few favors.

The sad part is that I had the model right there in front of me in two forms. The first was my own experience in canvassing, where you just can’t start screaming at somebody when you’re on their property. The second model is Obama himself. He has largely conducted himself and his campaign with admirable grace throughout even the hottest moments in this contest. I should have just asked, “What would Obama do?”

So that’s the situation I find myself in now, wondering and watching, “what would Obama do?” And I see the same steady, confident and open attitude that drew me to his candidacy in the first place. His people are talking to Clinton people (because “we shouldn’t negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate”), and discussions are under way about debt retirement, campaign staffing and even cabinet positions.

I don’t know how much credibility I have among the most intractable of Clinton supporters, but I know that my own inflammatory attacks against Clinton are useless and probably counterproductive at this point. I know that I’m interested in having this conversation beyond the group of people who already know where I’m coming from because it’s those conversations that will help the healing process even if forgiveness is hard or impossible to come by.

This post is not a blanket apology for what this blog has become and my part in it. That’s not at all what I’m saying. What we have here has grown into a truly amazing community of people fired up about much more than Obama, and I wouldn’t change that for anything.

I’ll always call out wrong where I see it, and I’m not saying a simple kiss and make-up will undo the damage that has been wrought. As CPL mentioned in a recent post, I think both the Clintons need to make a Herculean effort to begin the healing process. Whether by attacking MoveOn.org or dismissing the votes of entire caucus states or (update) her remarks about RFK’s assassination (/update), the damage resulting from many of their tactics will not simply disappear without effort. As Ricky Ricardo would say, “they got some ‘splainin to do,” and I know I’ll never look at them the same.

However, I think Obama and all of his supporters also have work to do, not in wiping the slate clean with Hillary Clinton but in really trying to understand the experience of reasonable Hillary supporters who felt they had to defend her because they were defending something much larger than her. As with all things large, we can start small. I started by talking to actual Clinton supporters I knew, and I urge any pro-Obama folk out there to do the same.

Updated paragraph:
I’ve been making small changes to this post based on some comments from the Jack & Jill Politics fam, and I wanted to add one other point. If we are to actually succeed in changing this country, beyond the election of this particular politician, we (all people) need to at least try to see the world from the perspective of those we disagree with. Often such attempts will not be rewarded, but the attempt will reach some and, if nothing else, it will give us confidence that we’ve done everything possible to move forward.

I’m trying again to be the change I want to see.

Forever fired up!

- Baratunde aka Jack Turner

Especially after she went $40 million in the red to discredit him?

This is sort of an open thread. Additionally, I’d like to hear from readers about what they would like to see in challenging CBC members who you think have jumped the shark and have quit representing the interests of the districts that elected them.

As Atrios would say, “Thread, please…”

cross-posted to goodCRIMETHINK

From ThinkProgress, WaPo and West Virginia Blue

After Democratic and Republican politicians strongly criticized Cheney, his PR person finally issued an apology for his “inappropriate attempt at humor.” In a speech at the National Press Club, here’s what happened

Cheney was responding to his distant relationship to U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, a Democratic presidential candidate.

“We’d always known about the Cheney family line on my father’s side of the family, back to Massachusetts in the 1630s. My grandmother was named Tyler, but it turned out she was descended from a Richard Cheney … who landed in Maryland in the 1650s,” Cheney said.

He then added, “So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family, and we don’t even live in West Virginia.”

After the audience laughed, Cheney added, “You can say those things when you’re not running for re-election.”

Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh please. Please stop. I’m dying over here. I’m laughing. So hard.

First of all, that’s a hack joke. West Virginia and incest? He might as well have talked about how women always go to the bathroom together in the club or how the best way to ensure a limitless budget in an endless war on terror is to illegally invade a Muslim country and murder hundreds of thousands of people.

Second, this is what gets both Republicans and Democrats to criticize this monstrosity of a vice president?

Not when he declared his office outside of the executive branch?

Not when he told a Democratic senator to go fuck himself?

Not when he declared warrantless wiretapping acceptable because laws don’t apply to this administration?

Not when he shot a man in the face and withheld the information, refusing to speak of it himself for days?

Not when he responded to the fact that two-thirds of the American people think the war in Iraq wasn’t worth fighting with “so?”

It is far too late for people to act offended at the statements and behavior of the Dark Lord Cheney, and it’s far too much to ask for the media to grill Cheney about this “gaffe” as much as Obama was hounded over his “clinging” to guns and religion comment. After all, Cheney is just one freak bicycle accident away from the presidency.

Please.


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